December 19, 2006
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we are winding down the semester, and everyone is on edge.
after spending quite literally every waking moment (19-20 hours/day) of the past 3 days in the library, i found myself walking home from field placement on sunday, with tears welling up in my eyes > i was so tired i could not see straight. on the way home, i met Mn, who lives in my house; she'd seen me and had waited so we could walk home together. one thing led to another, and we ended up in her room, talking and so that i could have a cat-fix (she's got 3 - ms. kitty, brenda, and bella).
now, i really like Mn. she's a year ahead of me, so she'll graduate in may, and she is very very cool; she's the kind of person i'd like to be when i grow up. after me sitting in her chair, drinking diet dr. pepper with tears just streaming down my face and blathering for 15 minutes or so, i finally pull myself together. turns out it was a good thing i needed to be with a friend because so did she.
she told me that someone (she didn't say whom) had 'outed' her to her diocese, and that she'd gotten a call from her bishop telling her that the canon to the ordinary (that's the person who has the power over the commission on ministry that has the power over your ordination prospects) had found out about her sexuality. now, Mn and i have never discussed if she were gay or straight > since i'm not looking for someone, and since i'm straight, it just never came up, and, to be honest, i never even thought about it one way or the other.
she said at the time she went to seminary, she was not aware of her orientation; she only became conscious of the fact that she's a lesbian relatively recently. she told her bishop once she realized because that was only fair, and her diocese is against the ordination of openly gay/lesbian persons. her bishop was going along with things since no one else knew and since Mn was single, celibate, and not looking. now, other people know, and so she might not be able to be ordained.
it is completely not fair. she is a wonderful person, will be a great priest... she's got an excellent rapport with youth, and i've heard her preach, and it's meaningful and moving... she has been upfront with her diocese > it's not like she hid anything. and then someone from here was the one who spread the word, which should be her secret to share. i am so saddened for her. she won't be able to be ordained at all in her diocese now, and so she would need to go somewhere else, possibly starting the discernment process over again in that place.
just one more person facing one more hurdle, dealing with more pain.... hello, God, we've done everything you want -- can we be priests now?
Comments (14)
Well I don't believe in the ordination of female priests to begin with, but that's another discussion entirely. I do hope that things work out for her. If she is single and celibate, her sexual preference should matter little. I'm not sure what denomination you are, but presumably... priests are celibate?
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I am in the tile and stone industry, importer and wholesale level.
What church are you training for?
celibate? What is the problem, if she was a homosexual activist, I would understand. I am an ex serial fornicator, would I be denied even though i am no longer promiscuous? Like your friend i still have the desire to sin, as we all do, but I make an honest committed effort not to.
kyjo diss's all christens he just likes you and I.
If had any idea what you were studying I would have figured out what you were doing.
Most reason why I'm a Christain who dissagrees with many Christian ways. I always believed women should become Preist if they wanted to. I'm sure God wouldn't mind.... but i'm not sure about these overpowering men though.....:wha:
p.s. Don't tell other men that a Man actually would like to see a female actually become president too. shhh, keep it a secret.
RYC---THAT is what you do when they've been cleaned recently...THESE go 3 years of "living" on 'em, so it's Dawn and a bucket & rag:(
i remember when i was dumb enough to take an accelerated physics class and HAD to study 15 hours a day just to pass...and i never had to study for anythang in my life, but don't like any F's because i hate losing when i KNOW i can win:sunny:
Woman priests, that is all about Paul's warnings to not put women in leadership positions over men in the church. My reading of that, is that most of what he was writing about, in that chapter, falls under the good ideas or suggestions category. Its not the law God. Now putting up church leaders that are openly living and promoting a sinfull life style? That is a breach of law, doing that turns the scriptures into so much toilet paper. Always remember context and authorial intent.
Yes you are right, you and I disagree often. Its nice to write directly to you, I don't really think we come from opposing points of view, just different ones. I think you will find that those with a more literal outlook in their beliefs, have not left their brains behind at the church door. And we do know how to read.
Wow, what a rough situation! I hope everything turns out! I'm sure she's been praying. If this doesn't work out, there maybe a better door around the corner!
ps Thanks so much for your comment!
RYC---i got it by googling NUDES and looking in the images tab...this is the guy's site: http://oldcatman.blogspot.com/archives/2004_03_01_oldcatman_archive.html and he has some funny pictures, but doesn't have that one OR where he got it from. Tried to figure out how to Google the artist, but unsuccessful
i DO remember he caused a big splash in NYC a few years ago when he tried to do a picture like that by the Brooklyn Bridge though
ryc: it's good to know someone will remember me when i don't remember myself. because, really, if i've lost the words, there's nothing left to me. or something. sigh.
RYC---You're supposed to stop playing when the booing gets too loud at the Apollo and walk off with your head hanging...my band was down to follow that tradition, but i turned up the guitar to earbleed and did like Marty at the end of "Back to the Future":lol: Hey, i wonder if one of the writers of that film was there that night and ripped me off:laugh:
They had to pull the plug on ME, and the band, the audience, AND the emcee all looked like they wanted to kick my ass:fun:
You have really been studying, eh? I'm proud, but also concerned that you took so much time studying. :wha: I hope you continue to do well in school.
ryc: Thanks for the comment. HAPPY BELATED BIRTHDAY! Hope your day was well :love:
Thank you for stopping by, anyway, I'm sorry I'm too cheap to be able to put everyone on protected, but any friend of Kyjo and Kes is a friend of mine. I hope i'll see you around the site on my public posts, at least!
I liked your post to kyjo you sounded a bit like I do at times. And on that statement you said what i was thinking. You just said it better than i could have.
Like I said before, we are not on opposite sides. We just have some different opinions.
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